David Myatt (1994)
The Numinous Way, Love, Reichsfolk, and National Socialism
Some Recent Quotes by David Myatt
” It is the compassionate way of The Philosophy of The Numen that represents my views, now; views, perspectives, obtained by the pathei-mathos of my past forty years. My experiences, my reflexion upon those experiences, have therefore changed me, as a person, and taken me far beyond, far away from, National-Socialism and even from what I termed, over a decade ago, the ethical NS of Reichsfolk, since as I mentioned this is somewhat immoral because still based on what I have termed the immoral, un-empathic, abstractions, of race and of the folk.” Three O’clock One English Morning (2010)
” What is important is that the choice of partners – and of friends – is entirely a matter for individuals. A question of love, of loyalty, of honour, of what feels is natural for one, and not a question of something called “race” or ethnicity. A question of Life working as Life works, in a natural manner in its species of time, with no abstractions imposed; no ideology followed or formulated, no dogmatic rules for individuals to try to or have to conform to.The best illustration here is falling in love. To fall in love is natural, human – indeed possibly one of the most human things to do. If we happen to fall in love with someone similar to ourselves, in outward appearance or whatever, fine. If we happen to fall in love with someone different from ourselves, in outward appearance or whatever, fine. The flow of Life within and exterior to us naturally decides.
What matters is the love; the returning of love. The wu-wei of love. The numinosity of love. The loyal and honourable sharing. The experience of life together. That is the foundation on which a clan, and from it a new folk, comes-into-being – and should come-into-being: not some abstract criteria we impose upon ourselves or upon others, and which imposition is or can be the beginning of suffering. Not some dogmatic belief in some idealized race and the need to try and “preserve” that race. Not the rejection of empathy and love for the sake of such an abstraction, such dogma.
Thus, if one is happy living among one’s own kind in a village of one’s kind and treasures their traditions and ways and wants to hand them onto to one’s own children – fine. If one falls in love with someone of one’s own kind, and is happy, fine, and thus may begin a new folk of similar people. If one falls in love with someone different from one’s self and one’s own ancestors, fine. And so on. It is the numinosity of love, of living numinously, that is important – that is ethical. It is the imposition of some abstraction one’s self, on others – judging others by some abstraction – that is immoral, wrong, contrary to The Numinous Way.
It is, simply expressed, a question of the natural balance of Life; of using empathy and honour to find and feel and appreciate and try to live that balance.” Some Questions Concerning The Folk, Race, and Empathy (2011)
” The primal mistake of the past has been to seek to strive after illusive abstractions rather than to seek to change ourselves in the necessary numinous way, with such a striving after such abstractions being the primary cause of the suffering we human beings have inflicted upon others, upon ourselves, and upon the other life with which we share this planet.
To be human – to manifest the reasoned humanity that our pathei-mathos and the pathei-mathos of human cultures have revealed to us – is, quite simply, to be empathic in the immediacy of the living moment, so all that is needed is the cultivation, and the practical application of, empathy, by ourselves, as individuals. This is wu-wei: a living numinously, and a living which, over a certain duration of causal Time, will aid the cessation of suffering and bring-into-being new, more human, ways of living.” A Numinous View of Religion, Politics, and The State (2011)
” [They] revealed to me the most important truth concerning human life. Which is that a shared, a loyal, love between two people is the most beautiful, the most numinous, the most valuable thing of all.” Myngath – Some Recollections of the Wyrdful Life of David Myatt (2010)
” To Sue and Fran I especially am indebted, for by their love, their lives, their early deaths – so unexpected, so tragic, so full of such a personal longful sadness – I am so reminded each and every time of their recalling of just how stupid, so fallible, so error-prone, I myself have been, with my arrogant and inhuman love of abstractions.” One Mystic To Another (2011)
” It is personal love – with all its tenderness – combined with fairness, a sense of personal honour, and with the ability to empathize with other human beings, that are not only numinous, but which also express our culture, our social nature, and are the things we should value, treasure, and seek to develope within ourselves.” The Numinous Foundations of Human Culture (2010)
” Thus am I humbled, once more, by such knowing feeling of the burden made from my so heavy past; so many errors, mistakes. So many to humble me here, now, by such profusion as becomes prehension of centuries past and passing, bringing as such a passing does such gifts of they now long beyond life’s ending who crafted from faith, feeling, experience, living, love, those so rich presents replete with meaning; presenting thus to us if only for a moment – fleeting as Thrush there feeding – that knowing of ourselves as beings who by empathy, life, gifts, and love, can cease to be some cause of suffering.
For no longer is there such a need – never was there such a need – to cause such suffering as we, especially I, have caused. For are not we thinking thoughtful beings – possessed of the numinous will to love? ” Bright Berries One Winter (2010)
” We become, we are, each intimation of The Divine that so enthrals us, still – so that our pasts become presenced in our future and our future in our shared pasts: for so long as we hold fast to that love which dreams us, beckoning in such sadness, strength, ecstasy, and hope as melds us to those beyond our selves. Their dreams our dreams; their hurt our hurt; their joy our joy; their life our life. And one lifetime here is never ever long enough… Which is why there is the you beyond the I that is this me.” Were I To Die, Now (2010)
Article source – David Myatt – Some Recent Quotes
David Myatt (1994)
A Few Comments About David Myatt
“Myatt has undertaken a global odyssey which took him on extended stays in the Middle East and East Asia, accompanied by studies of religions ranging from Christianity to Islam in the Western tradition and Taoism and Buddhism in the Eastern path. In the course of this Siddhartha-like search for truth, Myatt sampled the life of the monastery in both its Christian and Buddhist forms.” Professor Jeffrey Kaplan
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“ The more you read about [Myatt], the less you’ll be sure of, the more interesting he’ll become…. You’ll see why its relevant during your research. He’s something of an inspiration for me, although I was unaware of his work before I began mine.
A hint that will help you understand: his work with the order of nine angles is closer to the core than his work as a Muslim fundamentalist or a Nazi, but it is not the core. Look beyond, beyond the forms he uses. Look to how he manipulates those forms in order to achieve different ends.
He’s not a Satanist or a Nazi or a Muslim, essentially. Those are forms which he has, very effectively, manipulated to the extent that his individual agenda (wyrd) has become a permanent and self-propagating aspect of those subcultures. Modern national socialism and modern occultism, for example, have both been deeply influenced. Those may seem like backwaters– but they’re significant subcultures which have the power to affect society by their relationship to it, the degree to which they are in antipathy with other subcultures, and the way in which they attract and alter a certain kind of individual who is hugely influential upon society (the ”shaman”, the true priest, the poet). By altering those forms, he essentially alters the subtle structure of all society. Also consider that subcultures such as occultism significantly affect more mainstream media (because creators of such are often drawn to them in youth etc), and that by permanently influencing the nature of such a subculture, the media which determines the psychophysiological environment of all society can be altered.
The forms are not the message. Satanism is not the message. Nazism is not the message. Islam is not the message. They are manipulated to become vessels for Myatt’s agenda (the stars?). Believe me, you will find curious research on this fascinating.” Comment on enfpforum (Internet)
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“Myatt may seem to have flitted from one politico-religious philosophy to another, but there is a terrible thread of continuity and rigour through his life and writings that suggests he is much more than a disingenuous provocateur. Naziism and Islamicism have served, in turn, as modalities of disruption for what remains at core an occult working to sow general chaos and division – the necessary passage of “Helter Skelter” to break down the Old Order, before the founding of the New. Whose interests are served by there being a David Myatt? Is he is own man – or men – or does he belong to someone else? Or is it something else – an intelligence service perhaps, or something, say, acausal?” Jeff Wells: Nine Angles of Separation
“There was something unsettling about the man. Rumours seemed to hang around him like circling vultures…” Nick Ryan
“Myatt is an ethereal character. He is a dangerous man… Beneath [his] seemingly innocuous exterior is a man of extreme and calculated hatred” Gerry Gable (Searchlight)
“Le leader charismatique du mouvement néo-nazi anglais, David Myatt, devenu Abdul Aziz Ibn Myatt, appelle les nostalgiques de l’Axe et tous les ennemis des sionistes à embrasser comme lui le Djihad, la « vraie religion martiale » celle qui lutte le plus efficacement contre les Juifs et les Américains… Expert en arts martiaux et en actions commando, Myatt est l’auteur de plusieurs manuels de terrorisme…” Alexandre Del Valle
“ David is in ways like a modern day fairy tale himself (not only his life), but with more heart and less talking animals. It’s hard not to be fascinated, to some extent inspired or at least affected in some way. Perhaps not always to the better. He’s simply one of those men (as in mankind..) that stands out from the rest.” Dan, DMOR Crew, Sweden
“ David Myatt – Nazi Satanist or Military intelligence? Is David Myatt one of many ultra patriotic stooges creating politically useful armies for the global terror network? ” Anon Internet Comment
“ [Myatt] is mentally unbalanced, formally a Christian, Buddist.. now a Mudslum! lt people like him who will forever divorce the rest of us from the masses…” Anon Internet Comment
“ Lavey was a manipulator no doubt, and he did move many away from Christianity, but the darkness is lacking, Lavey himself can top Myatt in no way from what I read of them both. Lets see – circus trainer, photographer, and producer of a BS satanic group, vs the creator of the Sevenfold path, star-game, political evil genius, man of many roles and faces, who continues to this day to push the evolutionary limits and tread unknown territory. Lavey fooled no one, he was easy to read, showed his cards, and is know for what he was. Myatt still has the bored trying to figure out who he was, and probably will for some time.” (From a debate comparing La Vey and Myatt.) ” Anon Internet Comment
“ I genuinely like Myatt. I see him in the same mold as Manson: a prophet of the Kali Yuga; a nihilistic visionary — but with a grander vision than Manson’s, and far more ruthless, fanatical and determined to see it come to fruition…” Anon Internet Comment
“Here we have an ex-satanist (some say probably not so ‘ex’), ex-buddhist, ex-national socialist, now claiming he’s a muslim and yet arguing for the exact same thing as he’s always argued for – destruction to bring about his ‘folk culture’ ideology where people live in primitive agrarian pseudo communities defined solely by their “race”. The only thing that has ever changed with David is the packaging.” A MOAC [Myatt Obsessed Anonymous Coward] Mark 1
“ It must be remembered that David Myatt has openly denied the Holocaust and endorsed the slaughter of civilians using suicide bombs. Both of these actions are highly illegal in most countries and it is in the public interest that Myatt be jailed. MOAC, Mark 2
“ Some people think that Myatt is a nasty weirdo, but he is ineffectual and weak with no influence.” MOAC, Mark 3
“ Myatt as spent a life time wallowing amongst filth. NF, BNP, Combat 18, National Socialist Movement, Reichsfolk, ONA, Jihadist filth.” MOAC, Mark 4
“ David Myatt – Gnostic activist and thinker, poet, classicist, philosopher, metaphysician and ‘Gentleman of the Road’ amongst many other things – one of the best image of a true Gnostic available in our dismal time. An a-typical National Socialist, he is also a-typical in all his spiritual pursuits. He is nothing less than a true Gnostic, struggling for nobility, Knowledge and Liberation in a three dimensional world. A National Socialist ‘Jonathan Livingston Seagull,’ he soars and laughs from above at their attempts to interpret his words and actions by attempting to contain them within labels and doctrines.” Holger Werner
“ The final conclusion as to Myatt’s intentions and nature, at this moment in time, can only realistically be that each one of us will have to draw our own conclusions based on what little we know and – more interestingly – on what we assume or believe. Our conclusion may say more about us, and our society, than it might say about Myatt himself. ” Julie Wright
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The above comments about David Myatt, dating between 1998 and 2010, are taken from a variety of sources, including published books, articles printed in magazines and newspapers, and items posted on the Internet.
David Myatt
Three O’clock One English Morning
It is three o’clock one morning of an English Winter, and outside it is dark, and somewhat cold, with cloud to cover the stars of night and a slight breeze to rustle the fallen leaves that, somewhat dried by recent daytime snow-melting Sun, have been wind-gathered to rest where two parts of one garden fence meet and are met.
Inside, the soft candlelight that pleases as I sit, typing this, at my desk on which the decanter of fine vintage Port rests, still half-full, and music by Mozart gently suffuses the room, brought forth from grooves in vinyl by a modern marvel of sound reproduction. There is, alas, here in this modern dwelling no fire of logs to warm, as in that farmhouse, abode for many happy years until quite recently… Instead, only the warmth of such rememberings as often keep this old man happy in these, the twilight years of his, of my, life.
Much to recall; and much to remain silent about, untransmitted by words such as this – to be brought forth, and some of which have been brought forth, only aurally to trusted friends of long-standing who may or who may not, according to their own judgement, recount such matters for and to others, by whatever means, but only after I myself am dead. Thus, there are some things I will not comment about, here, by written means such as this.
So, to try and answer at least some of your questions, although trying to abridge four decades of experiences into one concise reply will of necessity mean some terse and perhaps unsatisfactory explanations.
In Respect of Adolf Hitler
As I wrote some years ago while living that Way of Life known as Al-Islam:
I have never, in my heart and mind, renounced my belief in Adolf Hitler as a good man, an honourable man, who – believing in God – strove to create a just and noble society, and who was destroyed by the ignoble machinations of those opposed to what is good and who have spread dishonourable lies about him, his followers and his Cause. Thus it is that I find I cannot denounce this noble man and those who fought and died for the cause he upheld, as I cannot and will not denounce those who today honourably (and I stress honourably) continue the struggle in his name and who respect the Way of Life which is Al-Islam… Thus it is that I continued for several years… with Reichsfolk – an honourable organization striving to presence something of the Numen I believe was manifest in National-Socialist Germany and in and through the life of Adolf Hitler.
Furthermore, the National-Socialism of Reichsfolk was the ethical, non-racist, National-Socialism I had developed in the late nineteen nineties; a Way of Life which saught to respect the difference and diversity of Nature, and which saught the development of separate, free, ethnic nations, with their own culture and identity, with these nations co-operating together, with no one race believing they were somehow superior to, or better than, any other race, but with each striving to achieve their differing Destinies, with there being no hatred of other races but instead a respect, deriving from honour.
This non-racist National-Socialism was developed for two main reasons. First, because I considered that the notion of racial superiority was untenable because it was fundamentally dishonourable; that is, unethical. Second, because I realized that the old type of National-Socialism led to unethical conflict, and that modern warfare was itself unethical.
In Respect of National-Socialism
For some thirty years, from the late nineteen sixties to the late nineteen nineties (CE), I actively strove by various means, political and otherwise, to propagate National-Socialism with the overt aim of creating, in my own homeland, another NS State, on lines similar to that of NS Germany. Indeed, one might with truth say that this singular aim was the main, the most important, aim of my life.
For the first ten or so of those years I naively and idealistically believed that this goal was attainable by conventional political means, given good leadership and a correct explanation of what I then understood National-Socialism to be – a noble cause, based on the values of honour, of loyalty to comrades, and duty to one’s folk. I never saw or even imagined myself as some leader; instead, and knowing the importance of leadership, I saught to find someone to whom I could pledge my loyalty and who, unlike me, possessed the charisma, the virtues, of a genuine revolutionary NS leader. Indeed, it was something of a friendly jest among certain members of Column 88 that I was “a Himmler in search of his Adolf Hitler”.
Never finding such a leader – but always, during those decades, hoping that such a person would emerge – I floundered about, doing the best I could to propagate NS politically; and also trying keep the spirit, the ethos, of NS alive, as Colin Jordan had done and did do, until his death, although in a much better way than I ever did. For I was often reckless and impatient, and perhaps too fanatical at times. Not to mention occasionally arrogant, disdainful as I was on such occasions of advice from people such as CJ – who, for instance, considered that my plan for recruiting and using ruffians (as with the short-lived NDFM) was not only foolhardy but not really in keeping with the ethos of NS.
After those first ten years, while much personal experience was gained, little if anything political had been achieved, and not only not by me. No one else, no other NS (or even nationalist) organization, had achieved anything significant either, despite much commitment and effort by hundreds of supporters. Indeed, what I termed The Magian System seemed to be stronger, more tyrannical.
Thus, for most of the next two decades I occupied myself with other tactics, other than overt political ones. Trying to use covert means, and seeking to explain, codify, refine, and possibly evolve National-Socialism itself. However, toward the end of these two decades I did briefly return to active, overt, politics – forming and leading the NSM, but more to try and continue the work begun by a loyal and dedicated comrade than because I had changed my view of myself as a leader. For I hoped, even then, that this new organization might attract someone of the right calibre to lead it. But neither these covert tactics, nor this new political organization, worked, leading me, over of period of many years, to certain conclusions, and among which conclusions are and were the following.
1) The first conclusion was that NS – or something based upon or evolved from it – could only ever become a significant political force if there arose a leader of sufficient nobility to lead a new movement. For such a leader would be the movement – just as Adolf Hitler was both the NSDAP and NS Germany. That is, political programmes, slogans, propaganda, activities, ideology, meetings, marches, were all fundamentally irrelevant – if there was no such leader to inspire, to lead, to give one’s loyalty to, and who embodied the essence of the NS ethos, just as Adolf Hitler embodied the essence of German National-Socialism. Without such a unifying, charismatic, figure, all movements, organizations, groups, whatever the initial idealism and enthusiasm of their members, descended, sooner or later into squabbling factions, just as dishonourable behaviour and lack of loyalty became rife. Even some limited electoral success, as the BNP and other European nationalist movements have shown, does not prevent this process, so that such organizations soon devolve to be at best minor political parties, perhaps with some political representation, but without any realistic hope of being elected to power, despite their constant rhetoric to the contrary. Thus they become a minor irritant to The System, but no real threat to it.
2) The second, perhaps more disturbing, conclusion was that we ourselves are a significant part of the problem. That it is not just a question of simply changing the political system, but of changing ourselves, as individuals, in a fundamental way.
Thus, and for example, perhaps a majority of those of European ethnic descent were no longer Aryan in nature. Instead, they de-evolved to become what I termed Homo Hubris, and it was this new sub-species of the genus Homo which has become the often willing and the easily manipulated hordes who had sided with the Magian and so defeated NS Germany. Not only that, but it was these new White hordes who kept the whole Magian System going, by their obedience to its ethos, and by their love of, and even now need for, the abstractions and materialism of The System.
In a personal way – through a practical striving for covert action over many years – I discovered just how difficult it is to find people (freedom fighters) ready and willing to do practical deeds and possibly sacrifice themselves “for the Cause”. Partly because this Cause – supposedly our shared Cause – did not live in them: they merely agreed (instinctively or consciously) with some aspects of its outward tenets. That is, it was more akin to some fleeting, easily discarded interest, or some passion which they could and often would forget when some other passion came along to enchant or ensnare them. For our Cause was not for them a Way of Life, a numinous and living faith, but rather just one type of politics among many.
Furthermore, while perhaps a few individuals might be inspired to action – or a few other individuals might do some deeds, elsewhere – such few actions, such few deeds, did not and never would affect The System in any significant way, and certainly would not break it, simply because a majority still supported it, actively or passively, and certainly did not support “us”, our Cause.
One therefore discovered for one’s self the truth of the truism that practical resistance to tyranny – to an occupying power – only works if one has support, significant support and sympathizers, from one’s own people, from those so occupied because they resent such occupation and its tyranny. The hard reality was that a majority of our people did not even feel they were living under some alien tyranny, and that a significant percentage even embraced the ideas and the ways of the occupiers and their collaborators (the hubriati) so much so for so many decades that The System had ceased to be something which “they” (some alien interlopers) imposed upon “us” but instead had become a hybrid system, partly “theirs” but also now “ours”, although always under the influence and ultimate control of “them” and of those who benefited from such a system, such as the hubriati. In a simplistic sense, “we” – our folk, or a majority of them – had been changed, from within; or been bred and educated by The State to accept and endorse, or at least be fairly passive parts of, The System.
One therefore began to consider working to undermine The System not from within, but from without – by aiding those freedom fighters who for various reasons also wanted the demise of the Magian and their own oppressive systems, and who thus not only desired to live in their own lands in their own way, but who also had a Cause that many were ready to die for.
Then, after about a decade or so of such experience it became obvious that even this approach was also not working, and would most probably also not ultimately succeed. (a) It was not working partly for similar reasons it has not worked for “us” (although our efforts were on a far smaller scale, over less periods of time) – that is, because these external allies were also a minority among their own kind, with many many others of their kind actively supporting and even collaborating with “the enemy”, and even desiring to manufacture a type of Magian system in their own lands. Thus, they were as lost to their kind, as a majority of our people were lost to their own innate ethos and the potential latent within us. (b) It would probably not ultimately succeed because to do so it needed internal dissent in the heartlands of the West, which was not forthcoming. Indeed, while some dissent existed, it was an annoyance to The System rather than a threat, with perhaps a majority believing the propaganda levelled at those freedom fighters, and actively or passively supporting the policies of their governments aimed at disrupting and destroying those freedom fighters in other lands.
3) The third conclusion was that each and every European homeland was no longer European by ethnicity, given the large-scale and continuing immigration of many decades, and that – short of implausible practical civil wars and a significant change in exterior lands – there was no practical way to make them wholly European again, and thus build a new folkish State. Implausible, because as mentioned above, a majority of even each and every European folk would find such a practical, civil war, solution unacceptable now and in the foreseeable future; and because one small homeland alone could not take such steps to expel whole communities while Magian power and the Magian ethos held sway in other lands, for the lone small homeland would soon find itself subject to punitive sanctions and, ultimately, invasion and thence “regime-change”.
4) The fourth conclusion was that, in essence, The State itself – as concept, as idea, as ideal – was ultimately incompatible with the numinous essence behind what Adolf Hitler had intuitively presenced, manifested, as National-Socialism in Germany. That is, that The State could no longer be made numinous, or manifest the numen, as it had begun to do in NS Germany, and that NS Germany was only an intimation, a beginning, a pointer toward a deeper truth; a truth revealed in part by the defeat of NS Germany by the White Hordes incited and led-on by the Magian.
This is the truth of our natural and necessary tribal nature, and of the nature of honour itself. The truth of Numinous Law (the law of personal honour) and the truth of how the clan, with a living, numinous, tradition, is and always will be immune to the Magian, and the dishonourable, un-numinous, abstractions that the Magian and their hubriati have manufactured, and which abstractions stifle our potential, disconnect us from the numen, and profane and undermine Nature and thus the living folk communities which are and which have been natural manifestations of Nature.
5) My fifth, last, later, and possibly most significant if contentious, conclusion was that the very notion – the idea – of there existing, or of desiring to move toward the ideal of, some pure race was an abstraction, and as such was un-numinous and thus unethical; contrary to honour itself, and which honour I had concluded was a practical expression of the essence of personal empathy. That is, that both race itself and the concept of an ethnic folk were – just like the concepts of the nation and The State – causal, immoral, abstractions; and that what was needed were new clans, new tribes, not based on any abstractions, any ideology.
In Respect of the Future
Given these conclusions – arising from four decades of practical experience and from much reflexion – it is my view that the future lies in numinously pursuing two things. First, the numinous goal of new clans and tribes, and which new clans and tribes could be either (1) evolutionary manifestations of (derived from) the natural already existing folks found in and evolved by Nature (and which thus possess ancestral living traditions), or (2) honourably and thus ethically, entirely new folks (not based upon any particular ethnicity nor upon any belief in such ethnicity) and which new folks we ourselves found and establish by dwelling in a certain local area, and which begin as our own extended family, or that of ours and also of a few trusted friends who feel as we do. Second, in changing ourselves as individuals, within, by a striving to live in balance, in rural harmony, with Nature and by a striving to uphold the most important because numinous principle of personal honour.
There is thus, in either of these two possible ways, no involvement with practical politics, nor any desire to seek revolutionary change, by whatever means or tactics. In truth, there is no ideology, and no politics at all – only a living of life in a certain way. A rejection of The System by withdrawing from it, and letting it decay and fall as it is destined to decay and fall, as all such causal un-numinous systems decay and fall, given time.
The former – that is, (1) above, the first possible way – is, for example, the old way of Reichsfolk, and of kindred groups; and the latter – (2) above, the second possible way – is the ethical, human, way proposed by my own Philosophy of The Numen where what matters is a personal compassion, personal empathy, and personal honour. And it is the latter – the compassionate way of The Philosophy of The Numen – that represents my views, now; views, perspectives, obtained by the pathei-mathos of my past forty years. My experiences, my reflexion upon those experiences, have therefore changed me, as a person, and taken me far beyond, far away from, National-Socialism and even from what I termed, over a decade ago, the ethical NS of Reichsfolk.
In The Philosophy of The Numen, there is a return to a more human personal scale of things; to slowly growing, through the generations, the foundations for new communities. An evolution toward a new type of human being, a new human species, and a new type of culture. For these, we do not need some revolution, some ephemeral State, some ephemeral political type of power; some ephemeral military force. Instead, we only need to presence, to manifest, within us the numinous itself, beyond ever changing causal abstractions.
There is thus the perspective of decades, of centuries – born as this perspective of ours is from the wisdom of our experience; from a concentration on the important and the numinous as against the unimportant and the profane.
In Conclusion
Now, the decanter only a quarter full, and Dawn not long in duration away, it is time for a full English breakfast to ready me for the tasks of another daylight day, again.
But before then, perhaps I should, and in conclusion, quote some words of mine, recently written, which at least for me seem to capture the essence of my life and the understanding I believe I have garnished from such strange livings as have been mine:
What, therefore, shall I personally miss the most as my own mortal life now moves toward its fated ending? It is the rural England that I love, where I feel most at home, where I know I belong, and where I have lived and worked for many many years of my adult life – the rural England of small villages, hamlets, and farms, far from cities and main roads, that still (but only just) exists today in parts of Shropshire, Herefordshire, Yorkshire, Somerset and elsewhere. The rural England of small fields, hedgerows, trees of Oak, where – over centuries – a certain natural balance has been achieved such that Nature still lives and thrives there where human beings can still feel, know, the natural rhythm of life through the seasons, and where they are connected to the land, the landscape, because they have dwelt, lived, worked there year after year, season after season, and thus know in a personal, direct, way every field, every hedge, every tree, every pond, every stream, around them within a day of walking.
This is the rural England where change is slow, and often or mostly undesired and where a certain old, more traditional, attitude to life and living still exists, and which attitude is one of preferring the direct slow experience of what is around, what is natural, what is of Nature, to the artificial modern world of cities and towns and fast transportation and vapid so-called “entertainment” of others.
That is what I shall miss the most, what I love and have treasured – beyond women loved, progeny sown, true friends known:
The joy of slowly walking in fields tended with care through the hard work of hands; the joy of hearing again the first Cuckoo of Spring; of seeing the Swallows return to nest, there where they have nested for so many years. The joy of sitting in some idle moment in warm Sun of an late English Spring or Summer to watch the life on, around, within, a pond, hearing thus the songful, calling birds in hedge, bush, tree, the sounds of flies and bees as they dart and fly around.
The joy of walking through meadow fields in late Spring when wild flowers in their profusion mingle with the variety of grasses that time over many decades have sown, changed, grown. The joy of hearing the Skylark rising and singing again as the cold often bleak darkness of Winter has given way at last to Spring.
The simple delight of – having toiled hours on foot through deep snow and a colding wind – of sitting before a warm fire of wood in that place called home where one’s love has waited to greet one with a kiss.
The joy of seeing the first wild Primrose emerge in early Spring, and waiting, watching, for the Hawthorn buds to burst and bloom. The soft smell of scented blossoms from that old Cherry tree. The sound of hearing the bells of the local village Church, calling the believers to their Sunday duty. The simple pleasure of sitting after a week of work with a loved one in the warm Summer quietness of the garden of an English Inn, feeling rather sleepy having just imbued a pint or two of ale as liquid lunch.
The smell of fresh rain on newly ploughed earth, bringing life to seeds, crops, newly sown. The mist of an early Autumn morning rising slowly over field and hedge while Sun begins to warm the still chilly air. The very feel of the fine tilth one has made by rotaring the ground ready for planting in the Spring, knowing that soon will come the warmth of Sun, the life of rain, to give profuse living to what shall be grown – and knowing, feeling, that such growth, such fecundity, is but a gift, to be treasured not profaned…
These are the joys, some of the very simple, the very English, things I treasure; that I have loved the most, and whose memories I shall seek to keep flowing within me as my own life slowly ebbs away…
David Myatt
(Extracts from a letter to a friendly enquirer)
David Myatt 1995 CE
Perspicacious Comment About David Myatt
Given below is a comment about David Myatt, recently posted on an Internet forum by a user named Silvertongue.
The forum in question is for ENFP types – that’s those who identify with a particular Jungian personality type, based on the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator. Thus, as you might imagine, this is not your typical dumb-ass Internet forum.
This comment is one of the most illuminating – one of the most perspicacious – I’ve come across concerning David Myatt, exposing as it does (IMO) the real Myatt and his real aims: which are, first, to develop a new species of human beings (Homo Galacticus), not be eugenics or anything so passée, but by having individuals accept and overcome physical, psychic, intellectual, and social, challenges (pathei-mathos), and, second, the exploration and colonization of the stars, which of itself, in his view will, aid and produce this new species. Myatt has devoted his whole adult life to these objectives – to Vindex, and the emergence of a Galactic Imperium.
” I think you would really get a lot out of… investigating ”David Myatt” and ”Anton Long” (they’re the same person, despite their denials of this). Don’t stop when you see that he’s a Nazi or Muslim fundamentalist or a Satanist or a whatever else… go beyond media reports etc. to the sites actually dedicated to working out what he’s truly about. One of the most interesting characters of our century or any other.
The more you read about him, the less you’ll be sure of, the more interesting he’ll become….
You’ll see why its relevant during your research. He’s something of an inspiration for me, although I was unaware of his work before I began mine. I have to admit that he’s more skilled than I am (although, when I’m really trying, I’m a better writer. The deofel quintet is truly awful).
A hint that will help you understand: his work with the order of nine angles is closer to the core than his work as a Muslim fundamentalist or a Nazi, but it is not the core. Look beyond, beyond the forms he uses. Look to how he manipulates those forms in order to achieve different ends.
He’s not a Satanist or a Nazi or a Muslim, essentially. Those are forms which he has, very effectively, manipulated to the extent that his individual agenda (wyrd) has become a permanent and self-propagating aspect of those subcultures. Modern national socialism and modern occultism, for example, have both been deeply influenced. Those may seem like backwaters– but they’re significant subcultures which have the power to affect society by their relationship to it, the degree to which they are in antipathy with other subcultures, and the way in which they attract and alter a certain kind of individual who is hugely influential upon society (the ”shaman”, the true priest, the poet).
By altering those forms, he essentially alters the subtle structure of all society. Also consider that subcultures such as occultism significantly affect more mainstream media (because creators of such are often drawn to them in youth etc), and that by permanently influencing the nature of such a subculture, the media which determines the psychophysiological environment of all society can be altered.
The forms are not the message. Satanism is not the message. Nazism is not the message. Islam is not the message. They are manipulated to become vessels for Myatt’s agenda (the stars?). Believe me, you will find curious research on this fascinating.”
http://www.enfpforum.com/Home/tabid/55/afv/topic/aff/8/aft/59/afpg/2/Default.aspx
Personally, I agree with the comment above about the Deofel Quintet – for it’s not great writing, and not in the same league as newer fiction such as Eulalia, Dark Daughter of Baphomet, and In The Sky of Dreaming.
But I guess the Deofel Quintet served a useful function in it’s now gone day – which was being read aloud to a small group of Occult initiates, in an intimate candle-lit setting. You no doubt can imagine the clichéd scene – ” It was a dark and stormy night, but inside the Satanic temple it was warm with a roaring log fire…”
Or something such as – ” Are you sitting comfortably, children? Then I’ll begin. Once upon a time….”
Lianna of Thee Darky Sox
122 yf
P.S. Read more about Myatt and Vindex at Myatt and the Quest for Vindex.
P.P.S. (For the MOAC) – I was gonna use the spelling develope to yank your chain, but thought this comment would be even more fun.
David Myatt 1995 CE
David Myatt – Selected Autobiographical Writings
Below are two links to pdf files which contain a small selection of the autobiographical writings and letters of David Myatt. Most of these writings are from the period 2002-2010 CE.
The first file (c. 3.9 megabytes) contains a selection of items from Myatt’s personal website (as of December 2010 CE) including a copy of the fifth revised edition (December 2010 CE) of his autobiography Myngath.
The second file (c. 430 kilobytes) contains a selection of the private letters of Myatt from the years 2002-2008 CE.
These personal writings give some autobiographical background to the development of both Myatt’s Numinous Way philosophy and also his rejection of Islam as a way of life.
David Myatt – Selected Autobiographical Writings (pdf)
David Myatt – Selected Private Letters (2002-2008) (pdf)
The Numinous Foundations of Human Culture
In your recently published autobiography, Myngath, you wrote that, and I quote – “a shared, a loyal, love between two people is the most beautiful, the most numinous, the most valuable thing of all.” Is that how you now feel about life?
Certainly. I have now reached the age when there seems to be a natural tendency to reflect on the past – to recall to one’s consciousness happy, treasured, moments from decades past, bringing as such recollections seem to do some understanding of what is important, precious, about life, about our mortal human existence.
One remembers – for instance – those tender moments of one’s child growing in the first years of their life – the moment of first walking, the first words, the time they feel asleep in your arms on that day when warm Sun and their joyful discovery of sand and sea finally wore them out… Or the tender moments of a love, shared, with another human being; perhaps evoked again by some scent (of a flower, perhaps) or by those not quite dreaming-moments before one falls asleep at night, or, as sometimes occurs with people of my age, in the afternoon after lunch or following that extra glass of wine to which we treat ourselves.
It is as if – and if we allow ourselves – we become almost as children again, but with the memories, the ability, to appreciate the time, the effort, the love, the tenderness, and often the sacrifice, that our own parents showed and gave to us but which we never really appreciated then in those moments of their giving. As if we wish we could be back there, then, with this our ageful understanding – back there, full of youth and unhampered by the ageing body which now seems to so constrain us. Thus, are we as if that, this, is all we are or have to give: this, our understanding, our now poignant understanding; this – perhaps a smile, a gesture, a look, a word, or those tears we might cry, silently, softy, when we are alone, remembering. Tears of both sadness and of joy; of memories and of hopes. Hopes that someone, somewhere, at some time, might by our remembering be infused, if only a little, with that purity of life which such ageing recollections seem to so exquisitely capture.
That purity which becomes so expressed, so manifest, if one watches – for example – a young loving mother cradling her baby. Look at her eyes, her face, the way she holds her hands. There is such a gentle love there; such a gentle love that artists should really try and capture again and again in music, in painting, in moving images, in words, in sculpture. And capture again and again so that their Art reminds us of that so very human quality, that so very fragile quality, which enables us – each, another separate human being – to be so gently aware of another person, and thus able for ourselves, if only for an instant, to feel that gentleness, that tenderness, in another. This tenderness, this love, should be captured and expressed again and again because such love is one of the foundations of human culture, and something we so often, especially we men, are so prone to forget when we allow ourselves to become subsumed with some abstraction, some idealistic notion of duty, or some personal often selfish emotion.
Thus are we reminded of the value, the importance, of human love, and the need for us to be empathic beings – to have and to develope our empathy so that we can shed our selfish self and the illusion of our separateness.
That sounds very much like some old hippy talking – preaching love and gentleness. But don’t you still uphold honour and surely that itself might sometimes require the use of force, of violence? Surely there is a contradiction, here – between such tenderness, such love, and such force?
Personally, I think there is no contradiction, only a natural human balance. One prefers love, gentleness, empathy, but one is prepared, if necessary, to defend one’s self and one’s loved ones from those who might act in a selfish, dishonourable, harmful, violent, way toward us in some personal situation.
This nature balance – an innate nobility – is possessed by many human beings, and has been, for millennia; which is why some people just naturally have a sense of fair-play and would instinctively “do the right thing” in some situations, for example if they saw two men (or even one man) battering a women in a public place or if they came across a group of yobs taunting an elderly disabled man. And it is this natural balance, this notion of fairness, which is another of the numinous foundations of human culture.
Thus, it is that, according to my understanding, it is personal love – with all its tenderness – combined with fairness, a sense of personal honour, and with the ability to empathize with other human beings, that are not only numinous, but which also express our culture, our social nature, and are the things we should value, treasure, and seek to develope within ourselves.
It is unfortunate, therefore, that our predilection for manufacturing and believing in abstractions has, over millennia, and especially in the past hundred or more years, detracted from these three noble virtues of personal love, personal honour, and empathy, and instead led to the manufacture of new types of living where some abstraction or other is the goal, rather than such virtues.
My own life – until quite recently – is an example of how a person can foolishly and unethically place abstractions before such virtues and thus cause suffering in others, and for themselves.
One reviewer of your autobiography wrote of it as a modern allegory; a story of personal redemption, but without God. Would you agree?
With my four-decade long love of abstractions I certainly seem to have been a good example of human stupidity and arrogance; of someone obsessed with ideas, and ideals, for whom love and personal happiness came second, at best. Someone who arrogantly, sometimes even fanatically, believed they were “doing the right thing” and who found or who made excuses for the suffering, both personal and impersonal, that he caused.
Even worse, perhaps, was that there were many times in my life when I understood this, instinctively, emotionally, and consciously, but I always ended up ignoring such understanding – at least until recently. So, in effect, that makes me a worse offender than many others.
So, yes – perhaps my life is one such allegory; one story of how a human being can return to the foundations of human culture, and thus embrace the numinous virtue of compassion, of ceasing to intentionally cause suffering, of considering that a shared and loyal love between two human beings is the most beautiful, the most precious, the most numinous, thing of all.
But without a religious dimension? That, surely, is the key here, and what makes your story so very interesting?
Certainly, a kind of redemption without a belief in conventional religion. But that is only my own personal conclusion, my own personal Way, which therefore does not necessarily mean it is correct. It is only my own Numinous Way, deriving from my own pathei-mathos, founded on empathy, compassion, honour, and where there is no need for some supreme deity, or some theology, or even for some belief in something supra-personal. Instead, I feel there is a human dimension here – a natural return to valuing human beings, born of empathy. That is, that what is important is a close, a personal and empathic, interaction between human beings, and a living in a compassionate and honourable way – rather than a religious approach, with prayer, with rituals, with notions of sin, of redemption by some some supra-personal deity, or some belief in some after-life and which after-life is ours if we behave in the particular ways that some religion or some Sage or teacher or prophet prescribes or describes.
Without, in particular, any texts or impersonal guidance or revelation – since we have all the guidance we need, or can have all the guidance we need, because of and with and through empathy; by means of developing empathy, and so feeling as others feel. Thus, we lose that egocentric – that selfish, self-contained – view of ourselves, and instead view, and importantly feel, ourselves as connected to, part of, other human life, other beings; we know, we feel, we understand, that they are us and that we are them, and that it is only the illusion of the self, the abstraction of the self, that keeps us from this knowing, this feeling, this understanding of ourselves as a nexion to all other Life.
Thus, there is – or seems to me to be – a natural simplicity here in this Way of Empathy, Compassion, and Honour: a child learning and maturing, to perchance develope into another type of human being who might perchance with others develope new, more loving, more empathic, more balanced, ways of social living, and thus a new type or species of human culture where abstractions no longer hold people in thrall.
Is this – in enabling this new culture – where you think artists have an important rôle to play?
Yes, artists and artisans as pioneers of a new type of human culture – artists and artisans of the Numinous who can presence, and thus express, in their works those things which can inspire us to be human, to be more human, and to value the numinous virtues of empathy, compassion, personal love, and personal honour.
David Myatt
2010 CE
Source – http://davidmyatt.wordpress.com/numinous-foundations-of-human-culture/
See also – Myatt: The Culture of Arete
The Balance of Physis – Notes on λόγος and ἀληθέα in Heraclitus
Part One – Fragment 112
σωφρονεῖν ἀρετὴ μεγίστη, καὶ σοφίη ἀληθέα λέγειν καὶ ποιεῖν κατὰ φύσιν ἐπαίοντας. [1]
This fragment is interesting because it contains what some regard as the philosophically important words σωφρονεῖν, ἀληθέα, φύσις and λόγος.
The fragment suggests that what is most excellent [ ἀρετὴ ] is thoughtful reasoning [σωφρονεῖν] – and such reasoning is both (1) to express (reveal) meaning and (2) that which is in accord with, or in sympathy with, φύσις – with our nature and the nature of Being itself.
Or, we might, perhaps more aptly, write – such reasoning is both an expressing of inner meaning (essence), and expresses our own, true, nature (as thinking beings) and the balance, the nature, of Being itself.
λέγειν [λόγος] here does not suggest what we now commonly understand by the term “word”. Rather, it suggests both a naming (denoting), and a telling – not a telling as in some abstract explanation or theory, but as in a simple describing, or recounting, of what has been so denoted or so named. Which is why, in fragment 39, Heraclitus writes:
ἐν Πριήνηι Βίας ἐγένετο ὁ Τευτάμεω, οὗ πλείων λόγος ἢ τῶν ἄλλων [2]
and why, in respect of λέγειν, Hesiod [see below under ἀληθέα] wrote:
ἴδμεν ψεύδεα πολλὰ λέγειν ἐτύμοισιν ὁμοῖα,
ἴδμεν δ᾽, εὖτ᾽ ἐθέλωμεν, ἀληθέα γηρύσασθαι [3]
φύσις here suggests the Homeric [4] usage of nature, or character, as in Herodotus (2.5.2):
Αἰγύπτου γὰρ φύσις ἐστὶ τῆς χώρης τοιήδε
but also suggests Φύσις (Physis) – as in fragment 123; the natural nature of all beings, beyond their outer appearance.
ἀληθέα – commonly translated as truth – here suggests (as often elsewhere) an exposure of essence, of the reality, the meaning, which lies behind the outer (false) appearance that covers or may conceal that reality or meaning, as in Hesiod (Theog, 27-28):
ἴδμεν ψεύδεα πολλὰ λέγειν ἐτύμοισιν ὁμοῖα,
ἴδμεν δ᾽, εὖτ᾽ ἐθέλωμεν, ἀληθέα γηρύσασθαι [3]
σωφρονεῖν here suggests balanced (or thoughtful, measured) reasoning – but not according to some abstract theory, but instead a reasoning, a natural way or manner of reasoning, in natural balance with ourselves, with our nature as thinking beings.
Most importantly, perhaps, it is this σωφρονεῖν which can incline us toward not committing ὕβρις (hubris; insolence), which ὕβρις is a going beyond the natural limits, and which thus upsets the natural balance, as, for instance, mentioned by Sophocles:
ὕβρις φυτεύει τύραννον:
ὕβρις, εἰ πολλῶν ὑπερπλησθῇ μάταν,
ἃ μὴ ‘πίκαιρα μηδὲ συμφέροντα,
ἀκρότατον εἰσαναβᾶσ᾽
αἶπος ἀπότομον ὤρουσεν εἰς ἀνάγκαν,
ἔνθ᾽ οὐ ποδὶ χρησίμῳ
χρῆται [5]
It therefore not surprising that Heraclitus considers, as expressed in fragment 112, the best person – the person with the most excellent character (that is, ἀρετὴ) – is the person who, understanding and appreciating their own true nature as a thinking being (someone who can give names to – who can denote – beings, and express or recount that denoting to others), also understands the balance of Being, the true nature of beings [cf. fragment 1 – κατὰ φύσιν διαιρέων ἕκαστον], and who thus seeks to avoid committing the error of hubris, but who can not only also forget this understanding, and cease to remember such reasoning:
τοῦ δὲ λόγου τοῦδ᾽ ἐόντος ἀεὶ ἀξύνετοι γίνονται ἄνθρωποι καὶ πρόσθεν ἢ ἀκοῦσαι καὶ ἀκούσαντες τὸ πρῶτον [6]
but who can also deliberately, or otherwise, conceal what lies behind the names (the outer appearance) we give to beings, to “things”.
DW Myatt
2455369.713
Notes:
[1] Fragmentum B 112 – Fragmente der Vorsokratiker, ed. H. Diels, Berlin 1903
[2] ” In Priene was born someone named and recalled as most worthy – Bias, that son of Teuta.”
[3]
We have many ways to conceal – to name – certain things
And the skill when we wish to expose their meaning
[4] Odyssey, Book 10, vv. 302-3
[5] “ Insolence plants the tyrant. There is insolence if by a great foolishness there is a useless over-filling which goes beyond the proper limits. It is an ascending to the steepest and utmost heights and then that hurtling toward that Destiny where the useful foot has no use…” (Oedipus Tyrannus, vv.872ff)
[6] ” Although this naming and expression, which I explain, exists – human beings tend to ignore it, both before and after they have become aware of it.” (Fragment 1)
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Above text in pdf format:
heraclitus-112.pdf
Article Source: http://thenuminousway.wordpress.com/heraclitus-fragment-112/
Φύσις κρύπτεσθαι φιλεῖ
Physis, Nature, Concealment, and Natural Change
The phrase Φύσις κρύπτεσθαι φιλεῖ – attributed to Heraclitus [See Note 1] – is often translated along the following lines: Nature loves to conceal Herself (or, Nature loves to hide).
Such a translation is somewhat inaccurate, for several reasons.
First, as used here, by Heraclitus, the meaning of Φύσις is rather different from his other usage of the term, as such usage is known to us in other fragments of his writings. For the sense here is of Φύσις rather than φύσις – a subtle distinction that is often overlooked; that is, what is implied is that which is the origin behind the other senses, or usages, of the term φύσις.
Thus, Φύσις (Physis) is not simply what we understand as Nature; rather, Nature is one way in which Φύσις is manifest, presenced, to us: to we human beings who possess the faculty of consciousness and of reflexion (Thought). That is, what we term Nature [See Note 2] has the being, the attribute, of Physis.
As generally used – for example, by Homer – φύσις suggests the character, or nature, of a thing, especially a human being; a sense well-kept in English, where Nature and nature can mean two different things (hence one reason to capitalize Nature). Thus, we might write that Nature has the nature of Physis.
Second, κρύπτεσθαι does not suggest a simple concealment, some intent to conceal – as if Nature was some conscious (or anthropomorphic) thing with the ability to conceal Herself. Instead, κρύπτεσθαι implies a natural tendency to, the innate quality of, being – and of becoming – concealed or un-revealed.
Thus – and in reference to fragments 1 and 112 – we can understand that κρύπτεσθαι suggests that φύσις has a natural tendency (the nature, the character) of being and of becoming un-revealed to us, even when it has already been revealed, or dis-covered.
How is or can Φύσις (Physis) be uncovered? Through λόγος (cf. fragments 1, and 112).
Here, however, logos is more than some idealized (or moralistic) truth [ ἀληθέα ] and more than is implied by our term word. Rather, logos is the activity, the seeking, of the essence – the nature, the character – of things [ ἀληθέα akin to Heidegger’s revealing] which essence also has a tendency to become covered by words, and an abstract (false) truth [ an abstraction; εἶδος and ἰδέα ] which is projected by us onto things, onto beings and Being.
Thus, and importantly, λόγος – understood and applied correctly – can uncover (reveal) Φύσις and yet also – misunderstood and used incorrectly – serve to, or be the genesis of the, concealment of Φύσις. The correct logos – or a correct logos – is the ontology of Being, and the λόγος that is logical reasoning is an essential part of, a necessary foundation of, this ontology of Being, this seeking by φίλος, a friend, of σοφόν. Hence, and correctly, a philosopher is a friend of σοφόν who seeks, through λόγος, to uncover – to understand – Being and beings, and who thus suggests or proposes an ontology of Being.
Essentially, the nature of Physis is to be concealed, or hidden (something of a mystery) even though Physis becomes revealed, or can become revealed, by means such as λόγος. There is, thus, a natural change, a natural unfolding – of which Nature is one manifestation – so that one might suggest that Physis itself is this process [ the type of being] of a natural unfolding which can be revealed and which can also be, or sometimes remain, concealed.
Third, φιλεῖ [ φίλος ] here does not suggest “loves” – nor even a desire to – but rather suggests friend, companion, as in Homeric usage.
In conclusion, therefore, it is possible to suggest more accurate translations of the phrase Φύσις κρύπτεσθαι φιλεῖ. All of which correctly leave Φύσις untranslated (as Physis with a capital P), since Φύσις is the source of certain beings [or, to be precise, Physis is the source of, the being behind, our apprehension of certain beings] of which being Nature is one, and of which our own, individual, character, as a particular human being, is another.
One translation is: Concealment accompanies Physis. Or: Concealment remains with Physis, like a friend. Another is: The natural companion of Physis is concealment.
Or, more poetically perhaps, but much less literally, one might suggest: Physis naturally seeks to remain something of a mystery.
DW Myatt
2455357.951
Notes:
[1] Fragmentum B 123 – Fragmente der Vorsokratiker ed. H. Diels, Berlin 1903. An older reference for the text, still sometimes used, is Fragment 10 [Epigrammaticus] (cf. GTW Patrick, after Bywater; et al). If the first letter of φύσις is not capitalized, then the phrase is φύσις κρύπτεσθαι φιλεῖ
Heraclitus flourished c. 545 – 475 BCE.
[2] Nature can be said to be both a type of being, and that innate, creative, force (that is, ψυχή) which animates physical matter and makes it living.
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Article source: http://thenuminousway.wordpress.com/heraclitus-fragment-123/
Lies of a MOAC
Allegations and Lies About David Myatt Exposed
Background
Over the past two decades a number of individuals have developed a hatred of and an obsession with David Myatt to the extent that they have persistently spread rumors about him and made various accusations against him.
One such individual was a young Zionist who deigned to call himself, among others things, Omnipitus, and who literally spent years trying to defame Myatt. One of his many allegations was that Myatt never really converted to Islam, and was still a neo-nazi. The nemesis of this Zionist came when, in August of 2006, he decided to post his accusations about Myatt on the Islamic Awakening forum –
http://forums.islamicawakening.com/f20/omnipitus2006s-obsession-ibn-myatt-1838/
This led to a somewhat spirited debate with various Muslims, and with contributions from Myatt himself. In respect of the accusation that Myatt wasn’t a real Muslim, the most succinct reply, from a Muslim, was the following:
” ibn myatt is a MUSLIM and omnipitus2006 is a KAAFIR. That much is evident!”
Faced with such replies, the Zionist ran away, never to be heard from again. Perhaps this had something to do with some Muslims – enraged by some comments the Zionist made about Islam, and the Prophet, Muhammad – tracking him down to his home in Canada.
Another such Myatt hating individual was Gerry Gable, who (and without any evidence) in the 1980′s informed on Myatt to the Police, fingering him for a murder. Gable then, in the 1990′s – with his influential friend Micheal Whine – made a complaint about Myatt to the Metropolitan Police, alleging, among other things, that Myatt had incited murder. On both occasions, Myatt was interviewed by British Detectives, and on the latter occasion, was arrested and became the subject of an international investigation, lasting three years, involving the FBI, Interpol, and the Canadian Police. On both occasions, the matter was dropped because there was no evidence, just malicious allegations.
Gable also published, in a magazine he owned, many articles about Myatt in which he made various allegations about Myatt (such as Myatt was a Satanist) without ever once providing any evidence. In addition, for some years following Myatt’s conversion to Islam, Gable told anyone who would listen that in his opinion Myatt’s conversion was fake and Myatt was still a neo-nazi and also a Satanist.
However, in fairness, it should be stated that Gable has – since 2003 – made no comments about Myatt, and seems to have finally accepted that Myatt’s conversion to Islam was genuine.
Another such Myatt hating individual was, and is, Tom Raspotnik (aka the Rev Nev Blackwood) who grandiloquently described himself as the “the world leader of theistic Satanism”. Raspotnik also spent years ranting about Myatt, and even went so far as to offer a USD $10,000 reward for information regarding Myatt’s whereabouts. In addition, he claimed – for several years – to have a letter from Myatt, the publication of which, he asserted, would “destroy Myatt’s credibility”. Yet, despite being repeatedly asked, he has never dared to published this fictitious letter.
However, since the on-line publication of Raspotnik’s home address by some Satanists Raspotnik had publicly insulted, Raspotnik seems, for the moment at least, to have lost interest in Myatt, although it appears that he recently (October 2010 CE) offered another USD $10,000 reward for information regarding the whereabouts of another Myatt-hating stalker (the MOAC – see below) whom he seemed eager to contact and join forces with, perhaps to form some sort of world-wide anti-Myatt pinky alliance.
Another Myatt hating individual was, and is, the anonymous stalker nicknamed the MOAC – the Myatt Obsessed Anonymous Coward – who has spent the last three years anonymously posting literally hundreds of rabid rants about Myatt on diverse Internet forums and message boards, setting up dozens of anti-Myatt blogs, and repeating various malicious allegations about Myatt.
Some MOAC posts are archived at –
http://madmagemyatt.wordpress.com/myatt-stalker-archive/
MOAC Lies and Allegations
Since this MOAC, using a variety of usernames, re-posts his accusations every couple of months – even though all his accusations have been disproved, many times – it seems apposite to collect here the various allegations and lies, and their rebuttals, of this particular MOAC, and which collection of lies and their exposure can serve as a useful archive for future reference.
What is of especial interest about the MOAC is that he has never dared – despite being repeatedly asked – to make his accusations on the Islamic Awakening forum, where his accusations would face serious scrutiny from Muslims and even from Myatt himself. Instead, the MOAC prefers to make anonymous posts on various Internet forums, making the same accusations month after month, and year after year.
MOAC Lie – David Myatt is not and never has been a Muslim
Response: This is just your own untenable and biased person opinion, which you never ever dare post on the Islamic Awakening forum where Myatt is a member and where Myatt’s Muslim friends can tell you what they think of your opinion.
Why have you never dared to voice this view of yours on the IA forum? Because you know your view will be exposed for the lie it is.
For Myatt is accepted as a Muslim by Muslims – and also by well known people such as Professor Robert S. Wistrich (one of the world’s leading authorities on anti-Semitism) and by writers such as Martin Amis.
Furthermore, Myatt issued, over ten years ago, a copy of his Testimony of Faith in Islam, signed by two respectable Muslim witnesses from his local Mosque, and verified by the Islamic Foundation.
So, your claim is quite laughable… Especially given the following reply on the IA forum to a similar allegations made some years ago now: “ibn myatt is a MUSLIM and omnipitus2006 is a KAAFIR. That much is evident!”
MOAC Lie – David Myatt ‘Anton Long’ Is A Police Informer
Response: And your evidence for this malicious anonymous allegation is what – exactly?
You have no evidence. You never post any evidence – you just make malicious accusations, which you repeat time after time (the despicable cowardly Magian Big Lie Technique) in the hope that the sheeple, or some sheeple, will believe such accusations.
It is interesting that you’ve never, in over three years of posting rants about Myatt, answered the following simple question – Is or was Myatt a covert MI5 operative – yes, or no?
Why have you never answered this simple question?
MOAC Lie – David Myatt is a confirmed Satanist
Response: And your evidence for this malicious anonymous allegation is what – exactly?
Again, you have no evidence. Only hearsay, rumor, and a desire to believe such things. There is no actual evidence that Myatt is, or was, a Satanist. No one has ever produced any such evidence, in over three decades.
No, wait – you previously stated you have statements made by two University students – students, note, not academics – who wrote essays in which they repeated such hearsay and rumors.
No, wait – you also have statements made by a few others who state that, in their personal opinion, Myatt is a Satanist. Great stuff – keep it going, for even if you have a million such personal statements, they would be irrelevant. That you cannot comprehend this simple fact, reveals your mundane character and your personal prejudice.
No, wait – you also claimed that because Myatt’s name appeared as co-author on a few books published in the 1980’s by some obscure publisher (who produced only around a dozen copies anyways of said books) it must mean that he’s a Satanist, even though you have no proof that the publisher did not use his name in vain.
It seems you also somehow forgot that Myatt, in the 1980’s and for a few years, ran a honey-trap operation, based on an Occult group, for the purposes of “infiltrating certain individuals into various positions in society”, and of “obtaining confidential information”, and for other nefarious spooky purposes. Given that Myatt was trained – as a member of Column 88 – in subversion, infiltration, assassination, sabotage, and other such stuff, and given that Column 88 was part of NATO’s clandestine Gladio stay-behind network, this gives a rather different “spin” on such limited Occult involvement in the 80’s, and leads us to ask (yet again) the question you have never answered, which question is: Do you believe that David Myatt is, or was, a covert MI5 operative, Yes, or No?
Why have you never – in your hundreds of posts or on any of our dozen or so blogs – answered this one simple question about Myatt?
MOAC Lie – This thread has caused David Myatt a considerable amount of embarrassment.
Response: Au contraire! All your Myatt posts serve only to do three things. (1) Create more interest in the life and works of David Myatt. (2) Create more interest in the Order of Nine Angles, and add to the sinister mystique of the ONA. (3) Reveal you for the obsessive, and disturbed, Myatt-hater that you are.
Do you seriously believe that Myatt – “the staunch advocate of Jihad, suicide missions, killing Jews, and an ardent defender of bin Laden” – is bothered by what one dirty kaffir says or writes? Or even what a hundred or a thousand dirty kuffar say or write? If you do believe he’s bothered, then you are even more deluded than I give you credit for. I imagine that Myatt just laughs, and says something like the following Al-Qaeda du’a:
اللهُمَّ أَحْصِهِمْ عَدَداً، وَاقْتُلْهُمْ بَدَداً، وَلا تُغَادِرْ مِنْهُمْ أَحَداً، وَاجْعَلْهُمْ
عِبْرَةً لأَمْثَالِهِمْ مِنَ اليَهُودِ وَالنَّصَارى وَالمُشْرِكِينَ، أَذِلَّةً صَاغِرِينَ
MOAC Lie – Anton Long, has hacked BBC Ouch Forum accounts and is stealing data from disabled people. He then arranges for the victims to be attacked by local yobs.
Response: And your evidence for Anton Long hacking such forum is what – exactly? You have never ever given any evidence at all. You just make malicious accusations, which you repeat time after time (the despicable cowardly Magian Big Lie Technique) in the hope that the sheeple, or some sheeple (aka mundanes), will believe such accusations.
And your evidence for Anton Long (or anyone) stealing data is what – exactly? Yet again, you have never ever give any evidence at all. You just blandly make the allegation. Anonymously, of course.
MOAC Lie – BN Village is a fake Afro-Caribbean message board, used for ID theft. Set up / hi-jacked, by Neo – Nazi, David Myatt
Response: And your evidence for such accusations is what – exactly? Yet again, you have never ever given any evidence at all.
We are just supposed to “take your word” for it, I guess 🙂
MOAC Lie – Black British Forums ( blackpresence ) is another phony message board run by neo-Nazi Anton Long for the purposes of data theft
Response: And your evidence for such accusations is what – exactly? Yet again, you have never ever given any evidence at all.
If we are to believe your many similar accusations, Anton Long is master computer cracker (note: it’s, correctly, cracker, not “hacker”) – who surely should be accorded celebritycracker status.
Since you’ve also claimed “he’s hacked your computer”, we have to wonder why he hasn’t sent “local yobs” (or neo-nazi thugs) after you and “intimated you” or otherwise dealt with you (and here, culling comes to mind), which he would surely do were he as vicious and evil as you claim and were he to have, as you claim, bands of local yobs at his beck and call. Or could it be – could it just be – that your claims are just fantasy?
Even if he hadn’t – yet – cracked your computer – if he was as skilled in computer cracking as you claim then he would surely, by now, after all these years have tracked you down…
But perhaps he does, after all, know who you are and where you are and is just playing games with you since you, by your obession with him, create more interest in him and his works and thus are useful propaganda, a useful mundane (or kaffir) who currently serves his fiendish plan.
MOAC Lie – Do not click on any of “Raffy’s” links. They all lead to sites used for I.D. theft. I’ve had my computer attacked frequently when browsing the ‘David Myatt’ hate sites
Response:
(1) Yet again, you give no evidence at all for such ID theft. How did you know it was ID theft? Did you have some anti-virus/anti-hacking software installed? if so, what? Give excerpts from your logs. Give the URL’s of the links you claim led to such theft. And so on. You never give any details – which leads us to believe it’s just another of your malicious, anonymous, allegations.
(2) What are the URL’s of these so-called “hate sites”? Why are they “hate sites”? Given examples of why they are “hate-sites”. You never ever give such details – which leads us to believe these are just more of your malicious, anonymous, allegations.
(3) Why have you never reported these alleged ID theft’s to the Police? Is it because they’re all in your mind?
MOAC Lie – The ‘ David Myatt ‘ hate-site has clearly demonstrated its involvement in the Kerri Delacruz assault.
Response:
(1) What is the URL of this so-called hate-site? You never give a URL. Why not?
(2) Why is this unknown site a “hate site”? Given examples of why it is a “hate-site”. You never ever give such details – which leads us to believe these are just more of your malicious, anonymous, allegations.
(3) What is the evidence linking this so-called (unknown) hate-site to Kerri Delacruz? You have never given any link – no evidence at at all.
(4) Why have you not reported your allegations to the Police? Which leads us to believe these are just more of your malicious, anonymous, allegations.
(5) You once, years ago, claimed that you had reported your suspicions about the Kerri Delacruz assault to the Police. You were then asked for a PIN (Police Incident Number) – which you could not supply. Instead, you made the feeble excuse that “the Police weren’t interested” in your suspicions, which – as any serving British Police officer or lawyer will tell you – is a ridiculous statement, since they take such assaults on or harassment of such people very seriously.
That you made such a ridiculous (and indeed contemptible) statement surely proves that your anonymous allegations are just malicious allegations.
(6) That you have publicly – and anonymously (as always) – used a known case of assault on a disabled person to further your anti-Myatt agenda is totally contemptible, and reveals your true nature. In fact, the Police should be investigating you for such contemptible behaviour and for your harassment of Myatt. Perhaps they are, and one day you’ll have to answer for your years of stalking and your malicious allegations.
MOAC Lie – ‘Anton Long ‘ is a Satanist, a nazi with a history of violence and organizes gangstalking which targets vulnerable disabled people. He organized attacks on a disabled woman suffering from cancer
Response:
(1) Gangstalking? And your evidence for such allegations are what – exactly? You have never presented any evidence at all.
(2) Targets vulnerable disabled people? And your evidence for such allegations are what – exactly? You have never presented any evidence at all.
(3) He organized attacks on a disabled woman suffering from cancer? Give dates, details, evidence. You have never presented any details or any evidence at all.
In summary, these are just more anonymously made allegations which you repeat time after time (the despicable cowardly Magian Big Lie Technique) in the hope that the sheeple, or some sheeple, will believe such accusations.
MOAC Lie – David Myatt kicked out of Combat18 after allegations that Satanists were using the organization as a front for child molestation
Response: And your source for this malicious allegations is what, exactly? You don’t give one!
No, wait – you once in another of your rabid posts about Myatt, a few years ago now (2007), gave the source as a 1997 issue of a tatty little photocopied zine produced by a nazi bonehead and called Redwatch, which tatty little photocopy blandly stated that “Satanists are dirty scum who use this bullshit as a front for child molestation…” At the time of the article, Myatt was heavily involved in Combat 18, and remained so for over a year. Indeed, according to Professor George Michael, Myatt took over the leadership of Combat 18 the following year when Charlie Sargent, the previous leader, was jailed for murder.
So, your assertion is just a lie. Myatt was never “kicked out of Combat 18” as you claim – instead, he remained a member and even took the organization over, and only left when he converted to Islam in September 1998.
That you quote some scrawling by some nazi bonehead in some photocopied smear-sheet is interesting and shows the true worth of your so-called “sources of information” about Myatt.
MOAC Lie – Reams of evidence that Myatt has lied about his non-involvement with Satanism are given in the links below..
Response: Your links lead to items where people give their personal opinions about Myatt. Quoting the opinions of others about a person is not evidence. That you believe it is, shows your desperation and lack of reasoning.
Even the notorious Searchlight article about Myatt, in April 1998 – which you love to quote from – contains just speculation and the personal opinion of the author. No evidence is ever given for any of the allegations made. For instance, the allegation that Myatt is Long; for instance, the allegation that Myatt was friends with Vik Norris. Just blandly stating that “they were friends” without producing any evidence is just using smear tactics.
I might as well claim that you – the MOAC – are friends with notorious paedophiles and rapists, and are desperate to try and keep your identity secret in case your criminal past and psychiatric history come out.
Anyways, no one in C18 took those Searchlight allegations seriously – they were laughed at, and were considered just more Zionist propaganda and disinformation. One C18 member even quoted that famous line from Hitler, that it’s an honor to find yourself smeared by your Jewish enemies, and that if you wake up in the morning and don’t find yourself smeared in the Jewish media then you hadn’t made good use of the previous day!
MOAC Lie – [Evidence ] including two recent academic studies from Scandinavia and New Zealand,
Response: They are not academic studies – they’re essays by students at Uni submitted for dissertations, and contain no evidence, only assumptions and the repetition of allegations that others have made.
By all means post the so-called *evidence* from these essays which you believe back-up your own allegations.
By the way, the *textual evidence* that Senholt claims backs up his assumption that Myatt is Long is so un-academic as to be laughable. It’s not based, for instance, on any forensic documentation analysis of contested documents, or on any accepted literary forensic technique, but instead is just Senholt’s personal opinion based on his own reading of certain texts.
That you seem to believe that it is more that just someone’s opinion, yet again shows your lack of reasoning and your reliance on dubious sources and your silly use of the appeal to authority logical fallacy.
I repeat – in over thirty years no one has ever produced any evidence for either Myatt being a Satanist, or for Myatt being Anton Long. All we have are smears, rumors, and allegations.
MOAC Lie – Interviewed by police and the RSPCA on charges of animal cruelty. Myatt’s notorious cat strangling incident.
Response: Myatt was indeed interviewed by the Police and the RSPCA in 1974, but about an allegation someone made against him. What you fail to mention is that both the Police and the RSPCA concluded that the allegation was pure journalistic invention, a smear designed to discredit Myatt, who at the time was heavily-involved in the notoriously violent neo-nazi group, the NDFM, and who had, the previous year, been released from prison after serving a prison sentence for violence.
MOAC Lie – David Myatt kicked out of another nazi group by leader Eddie Morrison,
Response: That you resort to quoting some piece written in some rag – in this case written by the notorious drunkard Morrison, whom John Tyndall described as:
“a specimen who has constantly ratted on everyone who has posed trust in him, and always in an atmosphere of shady plotting and intrigue.”
Strange that you rely on the opinions of such people. The quote, BTW, is from Tyndall’s Spearhead mag April 1983, which was titled The Wanderings and Posturings of the Pathetic Eddy Morrison.
BTW, Myatt published his own recollection of this Morrison story in both his Autobiographical Notes (first published in 2003) and his autobiography, Myngath (2010).
MOAC Lie – Myatt is a weak little coward
Response: That you make this accusation anonymously is very interesting. Here are some some verified facts about Myatt’s life, mostly taken from the Wikipedia article about Myatt:
^ acted as Jordan’s bodyguard at meetings and rallies
^ imprisoned twice for violent offenses in connection with his political activism
^ recruited and trained by the clandestine NATO stay-behind paramilitary group Column 88
^ was the founder and first leader of the National Socialist Movement of which David Copeland was a member
^ founded the neo-nazi organization the NDFM in Leeds in the 1970′s which was known for its violence
^ took over the leadership of Combat 18 in 1998, when Charlie Sargent, the previous leader, was jailed for murder
^ arrested by the elite Police unit SO12 of Scotland Yard on suspicion of conspiracy to murder
^ called – by one of the most eminent world authorities on anti-Semitism – a staunch advocate of “Jihad, suicide missions and killing Jews… and an ardent defender of bin Laden”
Now, that’s certainly an active, violent, and interesting, life – which includes several leadership positions of violent groups, and which life is redolent of his real character. Myatt has even challenged several individuals to a duel with deadly weapons, and been involved in numerous violent street fights and confrontations. He has studied and trained in the martial arts, and several of his detractors (for example, journalist Nick Ryan) have described him as amartial arts expert.
In contrast, who are you? What have you done?
It seems that you’re just jealous, and that it’s you who is the weak little coward since all you seem to do is anonymously post allegations about someone on the Internet and don’t even have the balls to post on the Islamic Awakening forum.
^^^
David Myatt, from a painting by Richard Moult
Personal Conclusion:
Prejudice and Personal Knowing – Myatt as Archetype
Despite his reclusive nature, and his conversion to Islam, David Myatt still often evokes a certain mystique. For instance, the following recent (September 2010 CE) quote – from an Internet forum devoted, of all things, to outré modern music – is rather typical,
David Myatt who started the actual O9A… is doing something light years away from culling and Lucifer. As someone once said: “The ONA has taught the most efficient way to curse someone. You send them a nailbomb.”
The following comments about Myatt are also typical,
” Myatt is a staunch advocate of Jihad, suicide missions and killing Jews… and also an ardent defender of bin Laden.” Professor Robert S. Wistrich
“I genuinely like Myatt. I see him in the same mold as Manson: a prophet of the Kali Yuga; a nihilistic visionary – but with a grander vision than Manson’s, and far more ruthless, fanatical and determined to see it come to fruition.”
” Myatt may seem to have flitted from one politico-religious philosophy to another, but there is a terrible thread of continuity and rigour through his life and writings that suggests he is much more than a disingenuous provocateur. Naziism and Islamicism have served, in turn, as modalities of disruption for what remains at core an occult working to sow general chaos and division – the necessary passage of “Helter Skelter” to break down the Old Order, before the founding of the New.
So again: whose interests are served by there being a David Myatt? Is he is own man – or men – or does he belong to someone else? Or is it something else – an intelligence service perhaps? ” Jeff Wells – Nine Angles of Separation (Aug 2005)
” People still think of, talk about, and follow David Myatt… even if he was a Nazi Thug… even if he was a Muslim… Even if he denies being a Satanist publicly. There are still thousands that know Myatt, thousands that look up to him, in whose minds he is a fixture…Aquino is nobody today but people still fear Myatt. It’s been some 30-40 years, and David Myatt still reigns the Sinister.” Chloe, WSA352 (California, USA)
Perhaps it is this mystique that so infuriates the many Myatt-haters and propels them, perhaps sometime unconsciously, to rant about Myatt as they do, desirous as they seem to be (perhaps out of mundane jealousy) of trying to “cut Myatt down to size”. Perhaps their attempts to do so make them feel better about themselves.
However, and importantly, two common features among the Myatt-haters are that they don’t know Myatt personally, and so judge him based on the opinions of others, and that they never bother to read or study the vast corpus of Myatt’s works but instead concentrate on one or two things they’ve heard about Myatt, or one or two of his writings, however old, that they may have read.
Thus, they have a very one-sided, and prejudiced, view of Myatt. For instance, Gable, in all his many articles and comments about Myatt, over more than twenty years, never once mentioned Myatt’s poetry, or his Greek translations, or his Numinous Way philosophy or his published private letters. Ditto with the MOAC. Raspotnik has also never mentioned Myatt’s poetry or his Greek translations, or Myatt’s autobiography, or Myatt’s published personal letters.
In the case of Gable, he concentrated on Myatt the Nazi and Myatt the alleged Occultist. In the case of the MOAC, he concentrates on Myatt the alleged mentor of Copeland and Myatt as alleged Satanist. In the case of Raspotnik, he concentrates – to be point of obsession – on Myatt’s Islamic writings, on Myatt the Terrorist.
In all cases, something Myatt writes, or has written, or something he has alleged to have done, sparks hatred and outrage in these people – and they concentrate on such words, or such alleged deeds, to the prejudiced exclusion of everything else.
That is, they become emotionally driven by an almost pathological hatred of Myatt – so much so, that he becomes, for them, an embodiment of evil; evil made flesh. An evil genius; the most evil Nazi in Britain; a poisonous despicable person; a terrorist who doesn’t deserve to live; a vile Messiah… Such are some of their epithets.
Then, after a while of casting Myatt in the role of The Devil, something curious and psychologically interesting seems to happen to most of the Myatt-haters. It happened to Gable; it happened to the MOAC, and now it’s happened to Raspotnik.
They turn from describing Myatt as “a dangerous man”, “a fiend” (and so on) to trying to belittle him, and claiming he has “no influence”, and “is of no importance”, and “is an insignificant little man” – or, even, in the case of the MOAC is “a shambling Fagin figure wearing dirty clothes.” Often, they also boast about their own prowess, and that they’re not “afraid of Myatt” who “is a coward”, or whatever.
Yet, despite such claims, they continue to want, even demand, the authorities to deal with Myatt, and jail him, as they continue to spew forth their vitriolic hatred of Myatt. Thus, we have the MOAC claiming that Myatt is “unimportant and uninteresting” and yet continuing to post dozens of posts about him, and continuing to set up new blogs about Myatt every time one of his anti-Myatt blogs gets shut down for posting malicious libellous allegations. Thus we have Gable and Whine claiming Myatt is “of no importance” and yet pleading for Muslims to have “nothing to do with this man.”
Thus, we have Raspotnik claiming he knows all about Myatt, and even has his address, and yet offers a reward of USD $10,000 to anyone who can tell him where Myatt is, as we have Raspotnik claiming that Myatt is “a fake” – although a fake of what is never explained – and that’s he’s “not afraid of Myatt” and will “take him one, anyday” even though he still wants the authorities to jail Myatt.
Why this change in their attitude? Why this sudden need to try, in their own minds, to belittle Myatt?
Most certainly because it comforts them, massages their ego, and gives them the illusion of importance and personal power.
So, it seems to work like this. First, they hate then demonize Myatt. But after a while that makes them feel rather insecure, uncomfortable, afraid, and powerless. So, in their fantasy, they cast themselves in the role of the brave Knight, righter-of-wrongs, who can take on and defeat The Black Knight because really their adversary is a coward, a Fagin, whom they – in their shining armor – can expose and defeat. It’s as if they’re in some Hollywood movie – or they’ve identified with some character in some video game who has embarked on a noble quest to vanquish the dastardly enemies of the good citizens of Earth…
Therefore, it does seem as if Myatt is serving a useful sinister, archetypal, purpose for such broken or immature or prejudiced or hate-filled people, just as this itself may hint at a deeper esoteric truth.
Which is that Myatt seems to have become – or is becoming – something of an archetype, sinister and otherwise. A real living archetype that certain people can identify with, and which certain other people can hate and use to indulge their fantasies and which makes them feel better about themselves. Perhaps certain other people may even find in Myatt – The Compleat Myatt, composed of Mystic Myatt (The Numinous Way, Poetry), The Mad Mage (the ONA), and The Fanatic Warrior (Reichsfolk and Jihadi Islam) – a means to achieve a certain natural balance of opposites within themselves.
Thus, it may well be that people such as Raspotnik and The MOAC are merely signs – pointers to this emerging esoteric truth of Myatt as Archetype.
Not only that, but by their unconscious actions they give life to this new, this emerging, archetype. Myatt alive seems thus to becoming more and more influential in so many and different ways, an influence that will surely only increase when Myatt himself is dead, or disappears from mortal view.
SinisterMoon
October 2010 CE
121 Year of Fayen
A pdf version of the above article (235 Kb) available here.
Editorial Note: The following text is taken from the entry about the Order of Nine Angles in the Swedish version of Wikipedia [ http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Nine_Angles ] dated October 2010 CE. In our view it presents a reasonable overview of the ONA, some errors notwithstanding.
Order of Nine Angles, eller ONA, är en satanistisk organisation grundad i Storbritannien. Namnet ska inte läsas Angels (änglar), vilket ofta missuppfattas. Organisationen är initiatorisk och hemlig i den mån att dess medlemmar och medlemsantal inte offentliggjorts. ONA framstår ofta som en av de mer kontroversiella satanistiska grupperingarna, bland annat för att organisationen förespråkar människooffer. ONA tros ha existerat sedan 60-talet medan de själva hävdar att de har rötter till urgamla traditioner flera århundraden tillbaka. Organisationen har idag dragit sig tillbaka men påstås fortfarande existera
Tro
ONA förespråkar en individualistisk, teistisk satanism enligt Vänstra handens väg med mål att göra den individuella medlemmen till en gud, eller akausalt väsen, en ny ras kallad Homo Galacticus eller Homo Galactica. Detta ska åstadkommas genom att medlemmen ständigt strävar mot självförbättring såväl fysiskt, psykiskt som andligt genom olika övningar och aktiviteter som rekommenderades i organisationens skrifter. Organisationen förespråkar individualism till en sådan grad att generell uppfattning är att organisationens skrifter inte måste följas till punkt och pricka, individens utveckling är det primära målet. Sätt för sådan utveckling kan vara psykologiska processer, till exempel ‘insiktsroller’ för att empatisera med andra människor eller ärketyper, extremt krävande fysisk träning och magiskt arbete.
Organisationen erkänner andliga entiteters existens som i regel benämns som De mörka gudarna. ONA förespråkar att Vänstra handens väg och ONA:s väg är en mörk, syndig väg som inte ska underskattas. Flera av deras skrifter tar upp att ONA inte är för gemene man utan kräver dedikerat arbete och en väldigt stark vilja. Meningen är att genom evolution och naturligt urval skapa en ny mänsklig ras och civilisation. Somliga menar att detta är metaforiskt talat, andra hävdar att ONA är väldigt allvarliga genom förespråkandet av människooffer, opfer, och vissa tror att det handlar om en andlig utveckling. Ordagrant har Anton Long, författare bakom majoriteten av ONA:s skrifter uttryckt sig positivt till människooffren som en del i det naturliga urvalet och för att stärka gruppen, vilket också är allmän tolkning av ONA:s skrifter.
Dessa och flera andra av ONA:s läror har lett till en schism mellan dem och många andra grupperingar. ONA har uttryck ett förrakt gentemot den LaVey-satanistiska Church of Satan som i sin tur har fördömt ONA:s tro på människooffer och tro i allmänhet. Samma fördömande har gjorts av Temple of Set, med vilka ONA brevväxlade under 80-talet och diskuterade bland annat detta och deras skillnader och likheter.
Detta, tillsammans med ONA:s skrifter som av satanister och ockultister brukar bedömas som seriösa och väl utarbetade, de höga kraven för initiering samt hur länge organisationen existerat har gett den ett erkännande få andra satanistiska organisationer har som enbart presenterats på Internet.
ONAs organisation och historia
Order of Nine Angles påstås ha grundats under 60-talet som en sammanslagning av tre nypaganistiska tempel kallade Camlad, Temple of the Sun och The Noctulians. Det råder oklarhet i vem som är organisationens ansikte utåt eller språkrör, majoriteten av skrifterna är författade av Anton Long, enligt somliga en pseudonym använt av David Myatt. David Myatt påstås ha tagit över grupperingen sedan ledaren flyttat till Australien och vara mannen bakom identiteten Anton Long. Författaren Nick Ryan har lagt fram argument om att David Myatt spökskriver mycket för ONA och har bland annat pekat på David Myatts nationalsocialistiska samröre och influenser i ONAS litteratur som kan anses ha vissa likheter. ONA har tillbakavisat påståendena om att Anton Long och David Myatt är samma person, även om Myatt har antagits vara en medlem då han fört organisationens talan vid flera intervjuer.
Historiskt har ONA accepterat medlemmar genom att dessa tagit kontakt med organisationen genom en postadress. Huruvida de fortfarande gör det framgår inte då ONA har valt att dra sig tillbaka efter att ha, enligt egen utsago, slutfört sin uppgift att sprida sin lära offentligt, däremot har Anton Long publicerat mängder med texter under åren och nya manuskript och texter släpps så sent som hösten 2009. Självinitiering kan också ske av individen. Detta har lett till att människor påstått sig vara medlemmar av ONA eller sympatisera med ONA, framför allt på olika diskussionsforum på Internet. I och med organisationens hemlighet och avsaknad av en officiell hemsida eller talesman varken bekräftas eller dementeras några medlemmar, varför självinitierade medlemmar brukar anses tillhöra ONA som en lära eller till och med organisationen.
ONA har sympatiserande grupperingar eller mindre grupperingar som öppet påstår sig vara ONA-inriktade i USA, Kanada, Ryssland, Australien, Nya Zeeland samt flera länder i Europa. Man pratar om Nexions och sinister tribes, varav Temple of THEM och WSA 352 tillhör kanske de mest erkända av ONA själva.
Gradering
Inom organisationen existerar flera grader, varje grad avslutas med en rit som för utövaren till nästa grad.
- Neophyte – Ämnar att ge individen förståelse för läran och utvecklas psykologiskt och andligt. Detta är uppdelat i fyra steg: (1) Skaffa sig en del specificerade ONA-skrifter, (2) Genomgå en hemlig ritual (jakt), (3) Genomföra initieringsritualen, alternativt självinitieringsritualen samt (4) förstå och lära sig spela The Star Game / Stjärnspelet, ett egenutvecklat spel av ONA med psykologiska, astrologiska och andliga undertoner.
- Initiate – När individen uppnått denna grad påbörjas det magiska arbetet som består av sju steg: (1) Påbörja hermetiskt magiskt arbete och utvecklas inom detta enligt ONA:s Sjufaldiga system (Septenary system), att följa upp detta arbete i en magi-dagbok samt studera och använda The Sinister Tarot, (2) Påbörja hermetiskt arbete för ett specifikt mål eller önskan, (3) Sätta ett väldigt krävande fysiskt mål, som exempel nämns minimum att gå drygt fem mil på mindre än sju timmar i terräng, (4) Söka upp och välja ut en person att använda som magisk medarbetare och sexpartner och introducera denne till satanism (ONA), initiera denne och genomgå magiskt arbete med denne, (5) få tag på och studera fler specificerade ONA-skrifter, (6) Ta sig an en Insiktsroll, en form av bedragande rollspel där initiaten tar till sig en ärketyp, natur, personlighet eller yrkeskategori som är närmast sin motsatta för att utvecklas, samt (7) Genomgå graderingsritual för Extern Adept.
- Extern adept – Som Extern adept fortsätter man det magiska arbetet och vidgandet av läran för andra: (1) Organisera och upprätta ett magiskt tempel och/eller en satanistisk grupp sex till åtta månader, rekrytera medlemmar och initiera dem i gruppen samt regelbunder hålla ritualer, (2) Träna och genomföra ännu högre fysiska mål, även här nämns som minimiexmpel drygt fem mil i terräng under sju timmar, fast med ryggsäck om cirka femton kilo, (3) Genomgå gradens hemliga uppgift, (4) Studera aeonisk lära och magi enligt ONA och praktisera denna, (4) Studera och om möjligt praktisera esoteriskt mässande, (5) Studera de esoteriska traditionerna av traditionell satanism (enligt ONA) och lära ut dessa till templets/gruppens medlemmar, samt (8) Genomgå graderingsritualen för Intern Adept.
- Intern adept – Graden Intern adept lämnar medlemmen till att fullfölja sitt öde, något den förväntas veta eller komma underfund med vid denna grad. Processen beskrivs som att ta åratal och ska leda till total självinsikt. Medlemmen ska utöka sin kunskapa och vara väl lärd inom de olika magiska arbetena.
- Mästare/Mästarinna – Som mästare eller mästarinna förväntas medlemmen ta ett större ansvar för organisationen eller gruppen, bland annat genom: (1) Att guida passande individer till den Sjufaldiga vägen, (2) Praktisera aeonisk magi för att främja den mörka vägen, (3) Självständigt arbeta och skapa nya sätt för att öka medveten förståelse för, och främja möjligheten för akausala/mörka makter. Medlemmen förväntas också använda sitt magiska arbete, främst inom aeonisk magi, för att förändra och påverka samhället. Denna grad tar minst sju år.
Efter mästare/mästarinna kommer graden Grand Master/Grand Mistress, enligt ONA:s skrifter uppnår bara en eller två individer per århundrade denna gradering, varför den inte beskrivs i deras offentliga texter så ingående. I vissa skrifter refereras det också till ytterligare en gradering kallad Odödlig (Immortal), spekulationer finns som menar att detta är statusen som gud, målet med läran.
Skrifter
Bland ONA:s skrifter tillhör de mest kända The Black Book of Satan (ej att förväxla med LaVey-satanismens The Satanic Bible) och NAOS. En lång rad skrifter har författats av ONA och majoriteten av dem av Anton Long. En del skönlitterära verk som ska läsas som både skönlitterära, inspirerande och magiska, har också skrivits, vid namn The Deofel Quartet.
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